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Town May Hold World Cafe to Discuss Murders, Aftermath

Town leaders to meet Tuesday to consider next steps.

 

The town of Reading may hold another community-wide conversation in late September to address the recent potentially-drug-related murders of Reading residents.

Charles Robinson, chairman of the Reading Public Schools Committee, said Monday that he planned to meet Tuesday with Camille Anthony, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, Town Manager Peter Hechenbleikner, Police Chief James Cormier, Superintendent John Doherty and Reading Coalition Against Substance Abuse Director Erica McNamara to discuss what to do next about the recent murders of Joe Ronan and Christopher Fischer.

“We are getting behind this and figuring out what to do,” Robinson said. “Maybe we’re not doing anything wrong. I don’t know.”

Robinson said he, like the rest of the community, was saddened by the crimes—the circumstances of which suggest drug involvement.

Superintendent Doherty said that the district had already planned to focus on the behavioral health of students this academic year and was already considering a World Café conversation before the twin murders rocked the town this month.

The district had commissioned a behavioral heath task force to operate this summer, Doherty said, and he spoke with the district’s staff Monday morning about the murders.

“This isn’t just school. This isn’t just town. This is a community issue,” Doherty said.

The last World Café included a heavy discussion about the town’s artistic presence.

Should another World Café occur next month, it won’t be the only venue for residents to discuss the recent events. Town Manager Peter Hechenbleikner said last week that he hoped to see a greater turnout at this year’s annual RCASA meeting.

Related Topics: Christopher Fischer and Joe Ronan

AnonLikeU

9:01 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

I'm really happy to hear our town leadership is talking and acting collectively to take advantage of the momentum of recent events. Now we can do our part by showing up at the next RCASA meeting in October. We can also do our part by listening, and by positive contribution. I'm getting a little tired of all the finger-wagging, parental deficiency crowd.

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Cheryl Buono

12:30 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

I'm sorry that you are tired, but the truth hurts. If parents are doing their job, then we wouldn't be in this situation. "Mary" got it right when she posted, "parents wake up". I'll re-post here if you missed it.
Mary
12:39pm on Friday, August 26, 2011
Parents, wake up, look at your kids. Look at their eyes. Ask where they are going at night. Stay up and check them out when they come home. Are they slurring their words? Are their pupils dilated?
It starts at home! We have high school kids that have lost accolades and leadership spots at the high school due to their alcohol, drug, driving or stealing infractions. But guess what, their parents are not willing to stand up to the kid and get them on the right track. They help the kid get out of the mess and then simply move on as if the problem is gone. Guess what, the kid is doing the same thing!
9th grade is way too late for any classes or discussions. I know you do not want to hear this folks, but parents and educators need to start talking about this stuff in elementary school. If a parent is foolish enough to choose not to let their child participate in the discussion at the elementary schools then that is their choice.
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Cheryl Buono

12:31 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

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Parents, guess what, you need to stay home on Friday and Saturday night. The minute you are gone, guess what, the party is at your house. My teen knows where the parties are every weekend. He tells me who has parents that are away. What is worse are the parents that are home but in bed asleep while their kids are downstairs drinking and doing drugs. I am sorry to tell you all - you have to PARENT!
Parents, are you setting a good example? Nothing was worse than going to an end of year party for a kids sports team and the parents were drinking! We were there to celebrate a great season for 8 year olds and the beer and wine were being served. This is unnecessary folks.
Thanks to tep2011 for his comments. It starts with the parents and parents need to step up and communicate, watch, communicate, watch and stay home! Sorry, but we need to take control.
We talk about this and the stupidity of the drugs on a regular basis in our house. We are trying! Are you?

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Cheryl Buono

12:41 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

What miracle do you expect as a result of these meetings, if parents don't change their behavior? Don't expect your town leadership to have any impact anytime soon. They'll appoint an ad-hoc committee. If they were seriuos they would call a community meeting the first week of school. Parents need to take charge and stop the cover ups. Hold your kids accountable so they learn that there are consequences to their actions.

Jimmy

9:15 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

having gone to school in Reading and grown up watching those kids I think I could have a good amount of insight on the situation for the higher ups in this town. I hope that if this meeting takes place, the date and place will be announced here on the Patch so that I can try to attend.

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Donna S.

9:56 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

RCASA should not be having ANNUAL meetings. At a minimum, they should be held quarterly. I would think with the seriousness of the recent events that the "annual" meeting should be moved up to the first or second week in September. By the time they meet in October and decide on any type of action, the kids will be half way through the school year.

Honestly, I cannot believe this comment... Robinson said. “Maybe we’re not doing anything wrong. I don’t know.” Obviously, something is being done wrong if our young people are dying.

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Cheryl Buono

12:51 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

I had the same reaction, when I read Robinson's comment. How can one even think that's a possibility?

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Christine

1:07 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Donna.....I can see how upset you are and well intentioned. There is a culture among the 18 - 30 crowd that drugs are simply accectable in your municipality. The problem is that there is a special relationship between drugs and (guns) violence. When you have drugs the other is present. Respectfully, your meetings need to develope a grassroots effort to force government officials to create a full time viable drug unit that can develope intelligence and systematically target narcotics dealers. The Town you call Reading is not a town anymore. Reading is a small city equidistant from Boston, Lynn, and Lawrence. It's proximity to Routes 93, 95, 28, & 129 are a narcotics wholesalers dream. In 26 minutes you can go from Reading to Charlestown on a train without ever getting pulled over by the police. Reading geographically is a natural port of call for Heroin and Oxycontin distribution. Reading is known among drug dealers as "Heroin Alley" as Routes 129 and 28 connect Lynn and Lawrence. Your meetings are important but need to address these issues. Reading is now being referred to as Fitchburg with a Jordan's furniture. I hope you succeed with your meetings before your drugs and violence spread to my community and affect my family.

M

11:06 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

I've ionly lived in this town for 11 years, but, man, quality of life has really taken a turn for the worse in this town over the past 5 or so years: greatly increased break-ins, drug arrests, finding needles/syringes in playgrounds, and now drug related assasaults and murders. When I moved here the biggest news in town was the "hockey dad" murder and it was viewed as such as anamoly in what I'd viewed as a safe place to move and start a family. Now 11 years later it's the next generation (including hockey dad's son) involved in serious crimes, and they're almost becoming...commonplace and routine.
At first I wanted to put the blame for crime ramping up in the past 5 years on town residents new to the town in past 5 years, which would be the new 40B housing/section 8 housing --but it's not that easy. A fair amount of this recent crime seems to be home grown and perpetrated by longtime residents (and not just the young ones, either, remember the town employee running drugs out of his home?).
The one commonality does seem to be drugs, doesn't it. The dirty little secret of towns like ours.
I don't have an answer, but as a mother of preschool and early elementary age children, part of me wonders whether this town, in the next 5 years, will become a really, really unsafe place to live & raise a family.

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Charles

11:17 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Just for the record 40B projects are "affordable housing" based on median income of the town. Do you know who qualifies for that in Reading? Our police, fireman & teachers.

M

11:07 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Sorry for all the typos - I really do know how to spell, but keyboard acting funky with double letters, etc.

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Charles

11:14 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

World cafe......Are you kidding me? A whole bunch of people talking about "we have drugs in our schools/community" - no kidding!!!! They had a similar meeting years ago and nothing happens. This is designed for the admin. & town officials to Cover there ***. Here is a question. "If we have a cop in the HS, and the school is flooded with drugs as people say, then where is the cop?" Could it be that when he catches someone? The admin. sweep it under the rug? Better yet? Have the kid join the cross country team so that he can still be the defenseman on the SUper 8 team. Good call Vacarro. It is time for town officials to get out of the way and not hold a Cambridge type World Cafe and let the Police do there job!!!!

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Reading girl

5:11 pm on Friday, September 2, 2011

Charles...a little off subject but I hardly think any of our police or firefighters would be eligible for "affordable housing" in Reading. Maybe teachers who are grossly underpaid.

M

12:00 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Charles - I totally agree it is wrong to blame affordable housing and I don't. At first, my instinct was to look @ places like Archstone/Reading commons (which did have the prostitution bust a few years back) & places that seemed prevelant on the police blotter, and think that increased the problems, but I know that is not the case. Several of my child's classmates live in Reading Commons - very nice folk. I would be very interested in hearing the input of the Police as to where they find the MOST drugs in this town and/or the most crime related to drugs. Even if the answer is politically incorrect. Even if the answer seems to point a finger at a sacred cow in this town (e.g., Reading School sports, if some posts are to be believed, but I don't know for sure). Then, let's target that first.

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Reading girl

7:48 am on Monday, September 5, 2011

I personally do not think it is the 40B projects alone but the greater amount of residents squeezed into a small town. BTW, when I was younger we had murders, rapists & massive amounts of drugs so this is not anything new!!! And not just a Reading problem but a problem of many towns. Lets just all work together to reduce drug usage. I say reduce as we will never eliminate it.

M

12:00 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Charles - I totally agree it is wrong to blame affordable housing and I don't. At first, my instinct was to look @ places like Archstone/Reading commons (which did have the prostitution bust a few years back) & places that seemed prevelant on the police blotter, and think that increased the problems, but I know that is not the case. Several of my child's classmates live in Reading Commons - very nice folk. I would be very interested in hearing the input of the Police as to where they find the MOST drugs in this town and/or the most crime related to drugs. Even if the answer is politically incorrect. Even if the answer seems to point a finger at a sacred cow in this town (e.g., Reading School sports, if some posts are to be believed, but I don't know for sure). Then, let's target that first.

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Cheryl Buono

12:48 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

You don't have to believe the posts. Google some of the names in the police log of anyone in their early 20s and then look up what team they played for. With the incoming seniors turning 18, you get a whole new list of names soon. It's not all related to sports, but we are often told that sports helps kids out of trouble. So much for that farce. How much did we spend on the new Reading Sports Complex - I mean the high school?

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Tom Jeffords

10:40 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Let's not forget about the student from Reading who was arrested at the University of New Hampshire for dealing drugs. While at RMHS this student was a member of the Drama Club and the school band. See Reading Patch on November 7, 2011. When can we expect to see the RMHS band leader and head of the drama club undergo a Q and A session in the Patch such as the one the AD had to undergo?

AnonLikeU

12:05 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

You're right "M", we have to be willing to speak the truth aloud, even if it is our sacred cows. As for an earlier post that chastised RCASA for only meeting annually, I suggest you educate yourself prior to more finger wagging. RCASA's upcoming meeting happens to be an Annual Partners Meeting, or something like that. Lots of other things, including meetings, happen in between. If you would actually like to know what RCASA has done, so that you can be informed and at least bash people and grops based on what is true and actual, call the RCASA outreach person at 781-942-6756.

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Donna S.

1:21 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

"Annual Partners meeting or something like that"? Sounds like I'm not the only one who needs to be educated about the RCASA meetings. I find it particularly irritating that I had to email the Director of RCASA to ask her to chime in on the comments and questions being posed on her own post on the Patch regarding what is being done in town about substance abuse. No one person on RCASA has made a single comment to any of the recent posts regarding the drug related deaths in town. Not one. Why not?

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peter lucci

2:04 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Probably because this is nothing more than a blog that individuals chime in on, usually anonymously...probably not the most credible arena for salaried public employees to address very serious issues.

Donna S.

5:49 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

True, Peter - only problem is the article is titled "RCASA Reaches Out To Reduce Opiate Abuse". If they are truly reaching out to address this drug problem, then they should be actively addressing comments and suggestions from those they are supposedly reaching out to - whether the individual choses to identify themselves or not.

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ABC

9:11 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Different comment than the RCASA stuff. Let's talk PARENTS.. Many of the sports teams at RMHS are drug-free. BUT, some of the biggest, most serious drug users (and sellers!) are on the boys hockey, boys lacrosse and football teams. Major parties are held where PARENTS buy and supply the beer for the kids, and get loaded themselves. Also, if, say your 16 year old is doing Oxycontin, heroin (they smoke it), or Percocets, and you claim you, as a parent, don't see the signs...you are playing a dangerous game of denial. Parents, the teens are not that good at hiding their usage of drugs, especially if there drunk, stoned, or high! You are not clueless. Also, to parents who suspect their sons are using the stuff and playing varsity sports, I think you ignore it b/c you don't want to jeopardize your kid's sports positions. On some level, you may think it makes your kid cool or more popular. So, to those parents, consider this each time you overlook their usage:: Are you prepared to visit your son in a cemetary or a prison? Do you love him enough to do your hard job and be the bad guy and get him away from the drugs and into treatment? Stop playing games and save your son. Joe Ronan's murder was a drug hit..Think about it every time your son comes home too late, too out of it, too broke (where does the money go?), to "tired" to get out of bed, too manic from the heroin (or lack of it once addicted). Be the strong, tough, good parent and save your son.

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A. Horch

10:07 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

and some of the parents you mention are on the BOD of FORF!
I won't mention the specific team, but the Girls are not immune from this problem.

How about Fall sports don't start until someone starts talking? Like in the old days when the teacher would punish the whole class until someone confessed or got their ass kicked after school.

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Paul Ronan

3:04 pm on Wednesday, September 7, 2011

My name is Paul Ronan, Joes dad. Would you explain exactly what you mean by a drug hit?

Christine

9:57 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

The Reading Police Department does an excellent job. Having said that I find it disheartening the department does not have a full time drug unit. This incident coupled with the Lawrence incident has exposed Reading's 9/11.

The police department simply does not have the street intelligence to link buyer with seller and create a climate where dealers fear the risk of arrest and prosecution, because there is not a full time drug unit assigned to perform that task. I believe it is part economics and part the failure by policy makers to honestly admit that large quantities of narcotics move thru this community. Community leaders do not want to spend the money to create a unit to combat the problem fearing the money spent on a social problem is being thrown into an abyss, and the solution is better solved thru education and rehabilitation. That philosophy may have a place in a Socratic classroom but not in the real world. (Continued)

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Christine

9:58 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Without strong drug enforcement, this community has allowed heavy street level narcotics to gain a strong foothold. Until the people of Reading demand that a professional drug unit be implemented then the problem will continue and the 50+ overdoses (Many saved by narcan by our excellent Fire Department EMT's on scene) each year will continue to go unreported. The Police Department has an excellent Chief that is committed to community policing. His hands are tied by the policy failures of those running the community and is told to do his best with limited resources. Resources are spent on cigarette stings and underage drinking stings because they yields tangible results for the money spent. Unfortunately that type of policing is just putting lipstick on a pig while Oxycontin and Heroin dealers have become entrenched in the community. To see those entities engage in turf wars in this Municipality has brought the element of violence to our community never seen before.

If the community continues to support the status quo in Law Enforcement tactics then be prepared to expect these incidents to repeat themselves. If the community throws it's collective weight behind the Police Department and supports the initiative to create a viable and effective drug unit then dealers will be targeted like they never have before. Dealers need to know that they are being targeted. Right now they simply are not!

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Karl Weld

11:13 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Chris, excellent point. What I'd like to know is how active is our police dept. with the Southern Middlesex Drug Task Force. I've Googled the task force and have come across multiple links to raids and arrests in Wilmington, Woburn, Burlington, Stoneham. Local police in joint actions with the Drug Task Force. Nothing comes up in Reading. If the police know who's dealing and where they're dealing from then why aren't we seeing the arrests like in some other communities? If we don't have our own drug unit, you'd think we'd be leaning on the Middlesex Drug Task Force to pick up the slack. Especially since it appears we have a bigger drug problem than I was aware of before the Ronan murder.

Hammertime

10:52 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Great points Chris & Karl! The police know who the people are if many who post here obviously do,their hands are tied byt he BOS who want to create more committees to study the problem while kids continue to get hooked and die as a result. RCASA is headed by all people who are paid town employees.IE Chief, Superintendent and selectpeople. It is a sweet way to cover it up as no one will be bold enough to speak the truth or they risk loosing their job. As a community we need to be vocal and demand action. I would love to see the K-9 unit drug team randomly check the lockers and schools. The sheriffs dept has k-9 as does the State Police, Why can we not utilize them? Why do we need to have a World Cafe? we know what the problem is demand action from the town leadership and hold them accountable or they can be replaced

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Karl Weld

11:07 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Hammertime, my point was not to point fingers at the police department. After going through votes on the budget as a Town Meeting Member I know how tight money is right now. Resources are maxed out. That being said, if the police department doesn't have the resources necessary to handle this problem on their own I would hope that they would reach out to the regional Drug Task Force, the State Police and the local DEA for assistance. Everyone I've talked to seems to indicate that the dealers are known to police. If this is the case what is preventing more aggressive action? It's not a policy directive from the BoS. That would be insane. I have policy disagreements with some on the Board, but I hardly think they would prevent the police from doing their job in this case for the sake of preserving the image of the Town. These people live here and raise children here too.

Christine

11:51 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Karl.....That is a quick fix.....Then the specialized units leave.....We need sustained intell because they players involved come and go.....Right now the heat is on and the dealers will lay low....This was a perfect storm waiting to happen.....From the cops I have spoken to no one knew the players involve in the Ronan killing...They knew the names but did not have the intel regarding their comings and goings...One way to judge a drug problem in a community is to contact the EMT's on the ambulance and get rough estimates on the number of saves (narcan hits) in a year. It is not an official statistic. Then contact food and drug on the amount of fatal overdoes each year from the individual municipality. That would give you an idea of the depth of the problem. Police in marked cruisers have little effect on the drug trade. It bothers me when I hear people refer to Reading as Fitchburg with a Jordan's funiture!

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Karl Weld

12:21 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Chris, quick fix or not, it's a start until Reading gets its own drug unit. And we should get our own drug unit. And if some feathers get ruffled up on Oakland Rd. because of a new focus on getting serious about this problem then so be it. I'd rather have drug-free, living graduates than championship trophies.

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Reading girl

5:36 pm on Friday, September 2, 2011

Chris, I agree with your comment. Reading used to be a quiet suburb when I was growing up, but the drug availibility has not changed. Has anyone forgot in the 70s the Reading Depot was mentioned in Life Magazine as a place to purchase drugs? No town is immune to drugs. Lets just all agree on that & really know your kids & where they really are & what they really are doing & with who. Good luck & lets hope we lose no more kids to this terrible problem.

Christine

1:29 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Karl....Once the drug culture gets established, and becomes the norm with the 18-30 crowd you will never get rig of it! Reading is has become the "Opium Den" of Middlesex County. Welcome to Fitchburg with a Jordan's furniture!

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peter lucci

2:04 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

"I hope you succeed with your meetings before your drugs and violence spread to my community and affect my family." - Chris

Chris, unless you live in a cave, I'm sure that drugs and violence have already spread to your community. BTW, the 1st time you used the Fitchburg w/ a Jordans, it was slightly entertaining...enough already, try another schtick. Before you accuse me of denying that Reading has a serious drug problem, don't bother as I acknowledge that there is indeed a problem.

Christine

3:02 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Peter....Reading has more mainstream kids involved in the drug culture than similarly situated communities. That is an opinion. But it is my choice to raise my kids elsewhere to keep them safe and away from that culture. Take a look at the "HIDTA" The high intensity drug trafficking areas..... http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs40/40392/40392p.pdf
Do you think it is an unreasonable to suggest a full time drug unit? I did not come up with that slogan. I wanted like to move back to Reading six years ago so my kids could go to school here and play hockey. My wife begged me not to. I am glad she put her foot down. She was right. God only knows what would have happened!

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Charles Towne

10:27 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012

I hope you got your wife something nice for Valentine's Day :)

Christine

3:09 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Peter....Welcome to "HIDTA" county!!!!

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peter lucci

3:50 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Geez for a minute there Chris I thought you were going to shed some light on Reading's drug problem with some studies that singled Reading out as the "opium den" of New England, come to find out that HIDTA counties includes pretty much every heavily populated county in the New England, with the exception of Norfolk County. That's quite a leap you took.
I'm glad that your wife put her foot down too.

Christine

4:10 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Thank you Peter for helping me prove my point!

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Reading girl

5:27 pm on Friday, September 2, 2011

The differing opinions above certainly do not help the problem. Let me be clear to ALL residents in Reading. There are drugs readily available for your child to purchase, as there was in the 70s & 80s when I saw it 1st hand. NO one person or town employee ( I figure this will cover police, etc) can protect your child. Only YOU can by informing your child of the dangers, checking your kids whereabouts at ALL times & NOT being their friend. I say this last part as some of my friends actually think their kids would never lie to them cuz they are "buds". DENIAL. Many kids will never use drugs, some will try & never do it again. Some will get caught in the web. Adults need to know their kids & their friends. Parents are OUTRAGED when random drug testing or school locker searches are recommended. If there is nothing to hide, then do not protest about civil liberties. Be grateful the schools & community cares. Dont try to be the "cool" parent, be the one who cares. Just my opinion.

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Cheryl Buono

2:46 pm on Saturday, September 3, 2011

Right on Reading Girl. No matter how much some want to over-analyze it, parenting is a parent's resposibllity.

Hammertime

3:06 pm on Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Reading Girl you hit the name on the head. Parenting is the key to a large number of problems to curb the tide of our youth. We cannot be their friends, they have plenty of them good and bad. It's our job to guide them during these tough and cloudy adolescent years. Bring on the random drug screens and search the lockers rather then having a world cafe to delay getting these issues addressed

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Reading girl

8:27 pm on Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Thank u Cher & Hammertime. Having first hand knowledge helps me with my recommendations. With all due respect to parents, all the guidance in the world does not keep ALL our children safe. Im happy to see so many residents interested in helping our youth. Lets keep this ball rolling!!

Cousin Vinnie

12:58 pm on Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Reminds me of a quote I read a few years ago.
"There are 3 types of people.
There are those who say, “There’s a rat in this room, and I’m going to kill it,”
A second group says, “There’s a rat in this room; let’s form a committee to figure out how to kill it.”
And a third group asks, “Did anyone notice there’s a rat in the room?”

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AnonLikeU

3:03 pm on Wednesday, September 7, 2011

While platitudes seem to help simplify things, I'm not sure they have much of a place with these problems. All I know is that a young man was assassinated in his own home by another one of our own. And the murdered boy was the beloved child and brother of his family as well as beloved friend to many. He was loved greatly , and from the sounds of it, loved greatly back. His life was cut short before he had a chance to right his ship.

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James B. Perry

8:25 am on Thursday, October 13, 2011

DARE

DRUGS ARE READINGS ECONOMY

JAY

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Christine

3:21 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

There are no drugs in Reading....and we have the addicts to prove it!!

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Reading girl

7:57 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

Christine, your comment is sad but true. This is not a new problem but an ongoing one that now has many former drug users as the parents. Guilt & denial makes it even harder for these same parents to say "Drugs kill".

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